Re: WhtGld: Lab Test Result Details

Joe Champion ( discpub@netzone.com )
Thu, 06 Jun 1996 21:32:26 -0700

Joe Champion, the serious side---

I would like to thank James for posting the following. Here is where one
can find mistakes that are common in laboratory procedures. This is not to
be negative to Mr. Chamberlain, but two fundimental errors challenge the
hours of work that he put into this experiment.

In an attempt not to bore the members of the forum(s), I will attempt to
explain in a non-technical script.

When one attempts an experiment, they must consider all possible errors. It
is quite obvious when you examine the detailed work of Mr. Chamberlain he
failed to account for standard contamication of acids and distilled water.

Yes, he had a material that was present, it was converted to a white
material that would not dissolve in aqua regia. This material could be
numerous things, but not gold.

Where is the gold? The gold was in the solution that was filtered off in
step 14.

The problem with such tests is you must establish a baseline. That is
accomplish the entire procedure by heating, adding, boiling without the
gold. Record these results and you have a basis for contamination of
chemicals. Then accomplish the experiment.

Also, if you look at the total quanitity of liquids and the fact that he
only started with 50 milligrams of gold, all types of errors could be present.

The white powder was probably a calcium compound. By the exactness of his
report, this would be the most logical. Also, calcium is a normal
contaminate of many acids and distilled water.

I ran this buy a couple of mr cronies and they agree, that even though
enormous efforts were spent on this experiment, there is nothing that would
indicate anything out of the realm.

Now if Mr. Chamberlain would of distilled the remaining liquid that he
discarded and there was nothing but NaOH, it would be a different ball game.
But he didn't. Yelp, it's the old adage of the gold goes down the drain.

At 11:37 PM 6/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Subj: Lab Test Result Details
>From: James Mann
>
>Further to our posting of 17th May, I have asked Parrish Chamberlain to
>provide a description and comments concerning his experiments with Hudson's
>method of producing 'g-orme' as described in his patent application. This
>may be useful for other persons who may also be interested in experimenting
>with this method. Parrish may be reached for inquiries at
><100251.2137@compuserve.com>
>
>
>DISCLAIMER
>*************
>
>The Anti-sceptic Society makes no claim that the substance produced is white
>gold, ormes, monoatomic elements, or any other material described by various
>generic terms used for the alleged material/s under investigation. No claim
>is made that any comments or explanations provided herein have any
>scientific validity.
>
>
>*********************************************************************
>
>1. Using a Sartorious electronic balance exactly 0.0500g (50mg) of pure
>metallic gold were weighed into a 400ml tall beaker.
>
>2. 50ml of aqua regia were added and the beaker placed on a hot plate to
>start the reaction. Once the reaction started the beaker was removed and the
>gold allowed to dissolve. (50ml of acid only were added because this is
>sufficient enough to dissolve the small amount of gold).
>
>3. The solution was boiled down to approx 5ml and some saturated gold
>chloride crystals
>began to form. 60ml of hydrochloric acid were added, then the solution
>boiled down to 5ml.
>
>4. Steps three was repeated twice more. This time the acids were allowed to
>evaporate off until a dry solid was obtained (being careful not to scorch).
>Steps 2, 3 and 4 were repeated once more.
>
>5. To this solid 150ml of 6M HCl were added and allowed to boil down to
>10ml, then two more lots of 6M HCl were added and boiled down to 10ml. (If
>brown fumes are still visible when boiling it may be necessary to continue
>adding the 6M acid, this drives of any NO2 fumes and excess nitric acid).
>The last treatment was allowed to boil dry and at this stage an orange-red
>coloured crystal was acquired with a tinge of luminescent green. (This
>indicated to be gold chloride or chloroauric acid)
>
>6. A solution of sodium chloride in distilled water was then prepared. 0.3g
>AR NaCl was used in 300ml of water. (.3g NaCl = 20mole of Na to 1mole Au).
>This solution was added to the dried crystals and allowed to sit for about
>two hours so that the reaction from gold chloride to sodium aurochloride
>could be completed. (This reaction is not noticable).
>
>7. The solution is evaporated down to dry salts and then 200ml of distilled
>water is added, the solution was then boiled down again and 150ml of 6M
>HCl is added and boiled down again to dry solids.
>
>8. 300ml of distilled water is added to the solids and allowed to sit for 30
>minutes so that hydration of the salt can occur.
>
>9. Using an ORION 720A electrode junction pH meter and a stirring plate the
>pH of the solution was adjusted slowly using 0.5N NaOH until it reached
>exactly pH 7.000 and allowed to continue stirring. The pH gradually drops
>due to molecular displacement. When the pH was stabilised 0.5 NaOH was again
>added drop by drop until the pH of the solution was at 7.000. This process
>was continued until the pH was stable at 7.000. This entire process takes
>about 6 hours and then the solution is left overnight.
>
>10. The solution was then boiled down to approx. 10ml and 10ml of AR HNO3 was
>added, the result was clustered luminescent white crystals thus the
>production of sodium auro nitrate. The solution is allowed to boil until
>the crystals are dry.
>
>11. Step 10 was repeated.
>
>12. 10ml of distilled water was added to remove excess HNO3 from the
>crystals, this was repeated until no brown fumes were evident.
>
>13. Again the pH is adjusted to pH7.00 and NaAu should result as NO3
>dissociates to form HNO3 in the solution. After about 10 mins a cloudy
>white precipitate forms in the solution.
>
>14. A 45micron bacteriological filter was used to filter off the solution,
>no dark precipitates were noticable.
>
>15. The filter paper was transferred into a vacuum oven with a 25kpa(g) at
>120 degrees Centigrade for two hours. The result was a light/medium grey
>coloured solid.
>
>16. A device was constructed to anneal the solid. This consisted of a piece
>of 4" dia. mild steel tube x 5" long. A plate was welded across one end to
>form a base, and an inlet tube welded to the base. Another plate, with a
>1/8" bleeder hole, was used to form the top, held in place with a weight. A
>bottle of standard welding argon was connected to the inlet tube and turned
>on. The device was placed on a gas camping stove and heated until a
>temperature over 300 degrees Centigrade was indicated by the melting of a
>lead mass. The solid was placed inside on a crucible and heated with
>constantly flowing argon for two hours. The solid was then dark grey in
>color.
>
>Testing and Analysis:
>******************
>
>The sample was placed into aqua regia and did not dissolve. Testing for
>sodium and gold using a GBC-2197 atomic absorption spectrophotometer showed
>that these metals were not present.
>
>Visual Observations:
>******************
>
>Although the material was still slightly grey, when observed under the
>microscope at 10x1000 magnification the solid appears to be a colloid of
>clear crystals. When in nitric acid the grey solid disperses and becomes
>white thus indicating that the HAu is in the grey form attracting oxygen
>from the air and bonding to the hydrogen, the addition of the acid removes
>the oxygen and changes the solid's property.
>
>Under 10x1000 magnification the white crystals in the acid are singular and
>dispersed, they appear to be double pointed longish clear crystals similar
>to quartz. As the acid evaporates the crystals begin to reform colloids.
>
>An attempt is being made to obtain photographs of these two observations.
>Also electron microscopy analysis to determine its supposed composition and
>perhaps further photographs.
>
>*************************************************************************
>
>James Mann <psi@ozemail.com.au>
>Anti-sceptic Society
>Melbourne, Australia
>
>
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