Where's the Beef Part IV

Joe Champion ( discpub@netzone.com )
Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:35:05 -0700

Following is a transcript from one of David's lectures. In it, he
references several places and people. Mr. Dan York, moderator of this
unmoderated forum, and I have been in contact via email with Dr. Jose Giner
of Giner, Inc. and Mr. Doug Wheeler of United Technologies Corporation. I
personally have been in verbal contact with both parties today.

First refresh your memory of this portion of David's lecture:

>
>So, you know, we separated the rhodium, and he wanted about 3 ounces of it
>which, we were making it milligrams at a time, so it took us about 4 or 5
>months, and then John wanted to, the Ph.D. wanted to re-refine it, and so we
>went back and re-refined it all again. Anyway, by the time we got it to
>them, GE had sold their fuel cell technology to United Technologies, who has
>another type of fuel cell. And they wanted the solid polymer technology of
>GE for their breathing systems on submarines and everything. And what
>happened is, the GE people had to go over and work for 6 months and then
>they were allowed to quit. And so, Jose Giner, the head of the fuel cell
>technology at United Technologies actually went and formed his own company
>in Waltham, Massachusetts [Giner Inc., 14 Spring Street, Waltham Ma.,
>02154-4413], and most of the GE people went with him. And so at the time
>our material is ready to work with, the people weren't at GE anymore, they
>were at Waltham, Massachusetts, so we contracted with these people to do the
>fuel cell testing.
>
>
>Our material as delivered to Giner analyzed and contained, the rhodium
>didn't contain any rhodium, the iridium didn't contain any iridium. But
>when it was mounted on carbon and put into a fuel cell, it did what only
>rhodium would do. It was a hydrogen evolving catalyst and it was carbon
>monoxide stable. Okay? It does what only, at that time, about $10,000 an
>ounce rhodium would do. Now I understand rhodium is down probably a
>thousand an ounce now. But it did what only rhodium would do. We ran the
>fuel cells for about three weeks doing time studies on it, and at the end of
>the three weeks they tore down the fuel cells and sent the carbon off for
>analyzes, and now we have 6 percent rhodium on the electrodes. Mysteriously
>appeared from some place, 6 percent.

In a lengthy conversation with Dr. Ginger he said that yes he knew David,
and yes he accomplished somes tests on mineral samples. He went on to
inform me that the testing was accomplished within a fuel cell.

Here were his generalized findings:

The mineral samples that David presented did contain small amounts of
various precious metals. These metals were tested using standard technology
and there was no evidence to either prove, nor disprove his claims of
monatomics. The precious metal detected was in a true natural state or our
methods would not of detected it.

Some of David's material was placed in a fuel cell. There was a small
activity recorded. Small means that the precious metals within the mineral
sample were reacting. This would be expected and not considered an anomaly.

In a shorter conversation with Mr. Wheeler of UTC, his reply follows:

The name David Hudson is not familar to UTC's Fuel Cell Division. Since UTC
is a large company, I will check with the other divisions to see if anyone
knows, or has heard of him.

ANY MORE LEADS FOR ME TO CHECK?????

FYI -- in the first portion of this lecture, David refers to a John, Ph.D..
John's full name is John Sicafoosh. John is a registered mineral assayer
for the State of Arizona and his Ph.D. is in History. He now teaches
history at a local university in the Phoenix area. A super person and
non-supporter of ORME's.

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