>How is the listener able to tell whether your wife's
>channellings, for example, represent the 'real' Thoth, if such a discrete
>entity exists in or outside of time and space, or the sophisticated products
>of her unconscious mind, or even perhaps some bogus diety masquerading as
>the 'real' Thoth? Do all Thoth channellers channel the same Thoth? Does
>experience and dedication count, I don't know.
They must know in their own hearts what is their truth and what resonates
with that. We offered the information only to provide a stepping stone for
those that are having difficulty in knowing what their own heart is telling
them, sometimes linear information can be of assistance.
>All paradigms require the participants to enter into an agreement, conscious
>or unconscious, with the base axioms of the paradigm. If I were to accept
>your assertion that your wife is channelling this supernatural being, then
>my mind would happily begin creating the unconscious mental substructure
>necessary to sustain that belief. Soon, I too would begin receiving messages
>from Thoth. Not necessarily from channelling, but I would begin to notice
>certain images, hints, coincidences, strange events, circumstances etc that
>would confirm that Thoth is near. Perhaps this might not be a such a bad
>idea, Thoth is after all the ancient god of science and enlightenment.
This is the priciple exactly, choose what reality you wish to participate
in. We are simply offering an alternative that may not have been considered
by some, it's their choice however. Based upon the response it is obvious
there are some who feel somehow threatened by an alternative even having
been posed.
>The test for all channellings, apart from (in my view) their major purpose
>as a wholistic spiritual focal point for religious communities, is whether
>or not they provide useful information to the seeker. A good example might
>be the Findhorn community, where the communications of Dorothy with the
>fairies enabled the community members to grow a remarkable garden in hostile
>conditions. (Often of course the usefulness of the information provided may
>not be immediately obvious, but this is not the fault of the channeller).
>Thus far, Thoth has appeared to provide only general information that cannot
>be put to any good use. Can Thoth be persuaded to be more specific?
The consciousness focus we hold is that every soul has their place in the
greater continuum (planetary consciousness) and that each serves its unique
purpose. Therefore if the usefulness of what we present is not immediately
apparent to anyone exposed to it, then they have a choice as to whether they
wish to embrace it for a bit and see what happens, or just let it go. It
serves no positive purpose to find fault with the information in order to
justify not accepting it, it simply is not necessary.
We have only placed very minute bits of the information we have on the forum
because it appears there are very few who are open to the the more esoteric
/ spiritual aspects of what all of this represents. The perspectives we have
to offer do not necessarily always align to accepted scientific theory and
procedure, and that seems to be the main energy present in both forums.
Perhaps there are many who would like more of this type of information and
they just remain quiet because of the other somewhat intimidating energy
present (BTW we also do not feel Joe Champion need resign, but a balance
should be maintained in how his endeavors for truth are presented).
We feel that folks like those at Findhorn have done an incredible thing, and
it is certainly more visible. Our purpose is to bring forth ancient
knowledge forms and re-introduce them to the current reality. It would be
much easier to embark upon something less nebulous, as we clearly see how
all of this is perceived by the world at large. If we were to do so, we
would not be fulfilling the purpose for which we know our souls incarnated.
We would be open to providing additional information if you have a specific
request, or area that you would be interested in exploring from this
perspective. Understand, we have no attachment to whether or not you accept
it. Also, Thoth does not address things from the linear perspective, but
rather helps the linear mind to understand non-linear reality as it pertains
to the topic of questioning. He repects each individuals right to form their
own conclusions, and to form their own path based upon the universal
principles he relates. Very seldom does he tell you what would be best for
you to do etc., although sometimes he will offer a few suggestions. More
frequently he will help you to sort out the source of your conflicting
feelings so that you are able to better to come to a clear resolution on the
issue.
In brief, he feels that the evolutionary process of individual co-creation
is paramount. This means he (and we) honors the process of science as it
stands currently, but also is willing to offer a different perspective when
asked to do so. Thoth is a Master of the Spiritual Sciences, which certainly
find foundation in the Earth sciences through the hermetic axiom 'as above
so below'. The earth sciences (as is true with all other aspects of this
reality) have much to evolve in order to even be able to regain the
knowledge of the ancients, much less to transcend that. This is our part in
the great machine, to make an ancient knowledge available to those whose
part in the great machine is to find ways of incorporating it into this
current reality. They may not be able to comprehend all of it (we certainly
don't), but they might just find one little morsel that gives them some type
of AHA, and then they are moved into perhaps a higher level of their own
soul's knowledge, which really is the same thing.
We would be interested to hear from anyone who is truly interested in the
perspective we have to offer as a complimentary focus to what other
information scientifically is offered through the forums. Are you out there?
If not we will gladly just be quiet and watch the forums for that which is
useful to our work.
Simeon and Maia
Johannine Grove
Crest In The Stone Mystery School