You have finally gotten to the heart of the matter. If the people marketing
the WPG products are misrepresenting the test results then it puts them and
their products in a very bad postilion. You say that even if they are being
outright deceitful "it does not matter to us". Well IT DOES MATTER TO ME.
They are making claims about the scientific analysis of a product being sold
for human consumption. They have to be able to back up any and all claims
made. There are clear differences between channeled information, intuitive
information, anecdotal stories, and claims of lab results. When they list
lab results they are clearly making scientific claims. If the distributors
of the products making those scientific claims can not back up those claims
then I believe they are perpetrating a fraud without respect to any of the
non-scientific subjective findings of effectiveness.
>Thus if
>thought energy is applied (directed) to any given experiment, which it must
>be in order for a human being to conduct the experiment, then that energy
>becomes inextricably involved in the experiment. On one level we might say
>that the thought energy has been utilized to animate the human body of the
>researcher etc., but is that all it has done? It has also been shown in many
>ways that thought energy (or psi energy) is not bound by the normal laws of
>physics as they apply to this space-time continuum.
If that is the case and that is the way the "scientific" findings have been
arrived at then all the distributors have to do is say so and I would have
no problem at all with it. On the other hand when they cite *MIT* as being
the author of the report on the contents I read that as making a direct
claim that is INTENDED to make the reader believe that Mass. Institute of
Technology ran the tests and are validating the published results. If that
proves to be the case then great. I will buy some and give it a try. But if
it does not prove to be the case then for myself I will have to conclude for
myself that the people selling these products are out right crooks. That
kind of knowledge definitely has an influence on my purchasing decisions.
>We will put some effort into finding some written sources that you might
>relate to Joe, and will post them accordingly.
Simeon, I hope you can find the sources of the scientific reports. I
definitely place myself in the class of "want-to-be-believer". In that
spirit I will add another $250.00 to the offers that Tony and Joe have made
and bring the current total up to $750.00. What is more if the scientific
claims they have made are validated by a reputable laboratory I will not
only purchase the $250.00 worth of products but will use them and provide a
"blow-by-blow" description of the process and progress to this forum.
Because I am something of a skeptic by nature it may sound like I would
prefer that the advertised scientific facts be discredited but the reality
is that I sincerely hope that the published reports are verifiable.
Dan York
danyork@iadfw.net