>I am being synical, but come on. All that we as "want-to-be-believers" need
>is a little proof. It was not I who stated that M.I.T. tested a product for
>ORME's. Nor, was it I who stated that A&L Labs provided analyses for white
>gold, green gold and red gold! Nor, was it I was stated that others had
>replicated tests.
>My opinion is open, if it is a parascientific experience, so be it.
>However, many are claiming that their products have been tested by others.
>Am I asking to much to find out "who" the others are?
It is definitely a spiritual (parascientific) experience for those who are
open to it. We were not addressing other peoples claims as to the testing of
their products, but rather the consciousness focus that you and others are
exemplifying in their research. We have a great deal of respect for your
scientific credentials and knowledge, but feel this must be taken into a new
consciousness focus in order to truly comprehend what this is about at the
level of reality which it represents. "want to be believers" says it
exactly, it would perhaps be quite productive to embark upon a spiritual
quest of some sort parallel to your scientific endeavors, the choice of how,
or even whether that happens is of course your's.
We are rapidly moving into an experience as a race that will see the merging
of the scientific and spiritual realms. Those who are scientists are in a
particularly difficult position at this time, and we fully support their
efforts to adjust to the changes upon us all. It is our feeling that as an
esoteric Mystery School we can facilitate this process to some degree by
offering a spiritual perspective on the scientific, just as the scientists
can offer a scientific perspective on the spiritual. In the end it will be
the assimilation of both these thought streams into one another that will
unveil the greater truth to us all.
It is as difficult for us to work with a 'need to prove everything'
perspective as it is for most scientists to work with the 'intuitive proof'
perspective. We are in the mode of receiving an 'intuitive knowing' about
things that is rapidly increasing in it's accuracy. This happens on a daily
basis with many mundane things, but also has been quite accurate on
information of a much larger scale as well. Ironically, taking the natural
powders since last August has seemingly increased this phenomena greatly.
You see, it is kind of a catch 22, when you open your mind to what ever
level of intuition you are capable of in the moment, it then will lead you
to that which can enhance the effect, whether it be some supplemental
substance as EG or WPG, or simply varying experiences that open one more to
the unlimited possibilities.
So, if there are individuals who have misunderstood the meaning of their own
tests on the naturally ocurring powders in an attempt at operating in
integrity in the way they understood it, or possibly even outright deceit,
it does not matter to us as we can perceive directly from the unified field
of consciousness what is and what isn't viable for us. For those who are not
able to do this just yet, we realize some research and data gathering may be
necessary, but it would be best to embrace the other intuitive potential
also as a reality, lest it remains dormant for good.
Our post was in part saying that maybe you could lend some of your expertise
to trying to find out why so many people are having such incredible
experiences with the naturally occurring powders. What is it's mechanism as
evaluated scientifically? If it is not readily apparent by the accepted
means of scientific evaluation, then perhaps a whole new area of scientific
discovery lies ahead awaiting to be uncovered. Is that not what science is
truly about? To be able to bravely go where no man has before?
We feel that your soul Joe, is one of those who has come to change the old
scientific paradigms, to go where others have not, but to do so is a big
jump in faith, and it must be faith in something you believe in, that
extends beyond the normally accepted realm of science, that leads you to the
goal.
>But if there is merit, why don't you attack it in the normal realm of research?
This approach is exactly what we are speaking of, there is no need to
'attack' anything. This is an area of conscious focus that wishes to
disprove that which seems to be disagreeing with the normally accepted
paradigm rather than to prove a new paradigm is viable.
>Can you supply a reference to a QUANTUM physicist who has published such?
>I can only speak for myself, but I need more that he, they, them, give me WHO?
We will see what we can come up with for you here bibliographically
speaking. But for starters let's take a look at Einsteins E=MC2. This is
stating that there is a relationship between energy, matter and the speed of
light. Is not thought energy? It has been measured on EEG's etc. Thus if
thought energy is applied (directed) to any given experiment, which it must
be in order for a human being to conduct the experiment, then that energy
becomes inextricably involved in the experiment. On one level we might say
that the thought energy has been utilized to animate the human body of the
researcher etc., but is that all it has done? It has also been shown in many
ways that thought energy (or psi energy) is not bound by the normal laws of
physics as they apply to this space-time continuum. The example cited by
Hudson on the NASA experiment with the cells of astronauts kept behind on
earth, which respond to the emotional / mental state of the corresponding
astronauts in space quicker than the transmission speed of radio waves
demonstrates this principle well.
So it stands to reason even from this admittedly simple example that the
thought energy of the researcher (or anyone for that matter) is being
broadcast into a unified field of energy (consciousness) to have an impact
on all things, not just the experiment, albeit the energy would be most
directly focused upon the experiment at hand and would affect that area of
reality the most.
We will put some effort into finding some written sources that you might
relate to Joe, and will post them accordingly.
Simeon and Maia
Johannine Grove
Crest In The Stone Mystery School