The Bottom Line!!!!!
Joe Champion ( discpub@netzone.com )
Thu, 30 May 1996 21:49:15 -0700
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>THE FOLLOWING PERSON WROTE THE FOLLOWING ASKING AN INPORTANT QUESTION WHICH
I WILL ANSWER. TO UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER, I WILL REPEAT THE QUESTION.
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>JOE CHAMPION
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>>> The ICP-MS Analysis is used to detect non-monatomic elements. The monatomic
>>> elements are found through laser spectrophotometric analysis and
>>> neutron activation. This is believe to be a better form of analysis than
>>> the older 300 second burn method.
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>>Please explain this further because David Hudson claims that neutron
>>activation does not detect monatomics (from the dallas transcript):
>> > Even neutron activation, the most sophisticated
>> > analytical tool available to science, is based on
>> > exciting the nucleus by sending a neutron into the
>> > nucleus and exciting it to high-spin state or a high
>> > energy state and then reading the emission that
>> > comes out of it when it drops back down. But this
>> > is already in the high-spin state and it's happy in
>> > the high-spin state and it doesn't want to come out
>> > of the high-spin state. So the neutron doesn't read
>> > anything. It's invisible to neutron activation.
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>>And I also haven't seen any claims that laser spectrophotometric
>>analysis will detect monatomic elements. Is there any independent
>>research backing that up?
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>>I'm seeing lots of claims made and lots of sci-babble tossed about
>>but I'm not seeing any evidence of hard science to back it up.
>>
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>The hard science exists, but the answer is not what some wish to hear.
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>When David started his work some +16 years ago he met a man named Zig
Bremmer. Mr. Bremmer has a laboratory in Scottsdale Arizona known as BTC, or
Bremmer Technologies Corporation (Telephone: 602-948-2876).
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>Mr. Bremmer owns and operates a Direct Coupled Plasma system (DCP). In
this process you take a sample and subject it to a carbon arc. When the
sample starts to volatize, emission lines (light) from the sample become
evident from falling electrons into lower levels of the atom. Each element
has it's own characteristics. That is to say, that the speed of which these
electrons change orbits creates different wavelengths of light. This is the
most simplistic explanation behind the principle of emission spectroscopy.
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>In the case of DCP, the results are more qualitative, than quantitative.
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>Why? For the amount of light produced from a DCP is proportional to the
energy applied to the arc. In this case energy is a functions of watts x
seconds.
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>To quantitize, you must establish a standard and place the same quantum of
energy to it as the unknown. In the case of DCP, this is, at best,
extremely difficult.
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>Continuing, the DCP operated by Mr. Bremmer has fixed slits to measure
different light frequencies. If you remember, one of David's first findings
was the appearance of iridium during a 300 second burn.
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>Here's the punch line, the longer a sample burns the higher the intensity
of light due to the total energy (also a function of conductivity). Again,
this being said, Mr. Bremmer was aware that if you burn certain samples
which contained silver for an extended time (300 seconds) you would see
iridium! Mr. Bremmer showed this technique to David and explained it as his
"cluster theory."
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>David was convinced that something was going on and developed his separate
theories which evolved into the "monoatomic."
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>But here is the facts, Mr. Bremmer was (and for that matter I think still
is) using the wavelength of 3513.65 angstroms to measure the peak of
iridium. When strongly excited, silver has a peak at 3513.38 angstroms.
During the increased burn cycle (the 300 seconds) the peak of the silver
would "bloom" and enter the window of the iridium.
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>I presented this finding to Mr. Bremmer in January 1995 and David later in
the same year. This is not an unusual occurrence and not the only reason
for false readings.
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>Allow me to say that I do not make these statements lightly, nor without proof.
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>I have certified assays from Mr. Bremmer that states that samples of pure
99.9% silver contain greater than 3.0% iridium. I can support any challenge
in this arena.
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>Assays of this type has cost unsuspected investors millions of dollars from
Mr. Bremmer. If you call him, he has a bigger machine in Germany which will
produce macro quantities of precious metals. Yes, of course, it is a
prototype and costs a great deal of money.
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>I have not mentioned this fact to the public forum, for I was hoping that
David would do so first. He has spent enormous energies in this field, and
as a person I have great respect for his driving energies.
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>In respect to rhodium or any of the other metals, this is a trait of the
instrument!
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>However, when someone asks a sincere question, an answer is deserved!!
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>As far as neutron activation, David's answer is poppy-cock. Neutron
activation means that high energy neutrons are sent into an extremely small
sample. When this occurs the normally non-radioactive isotopes of the
elements present, become radioactive (by the absorbtion of an excess
neutron) . The instrument then monitors their radiation decay. It does not
matter what spin state the element might (or for tha matter, might not) be
in. It will be become radioactive. The amount of radiation depends on
several known facets, with one of the most important being, the known
thermal nuclear cross section of the targeted elements isoptope(s).
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>For those wishing a more technical answer, please reply to the forum, or
email me direct.
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>Joe Champion
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